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The church of Barotseland had its origins in the work of the Paris Evangelical Mission (PEM) with its mainly French and Swiss missionaries whose mission had been in Lesotho for many years, and by the 1870s they saw possibilities in working north of the Zambezi with people who, because of the population shifts of the 19th century, were familiar with the Sotho language. After expeditions by the famous pioneer missionary Francois Coillard to Barotseland, a mission station was established abou...


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Zambian Government Fires Over 150 Barotseland Youths in 'Western' Province

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President Sata of Zambia

As tempers escalate in Barotseland, Mr. Sata of Zambia has now been served with a 21days ultimatum to vacate Barotseland or face sanctions.

In a letter addressed and delivered to Mr. Sata at State house, which was also copied and delivered to; The Secretary General - United Nations, The Country Representative - UNDP, Zambia, The President - European Union, The Secretary General - Commonwealth, The Secretary General - African Union, The Secretary General - Amnesty International, UK, The President - International Criminal Court (ICC), Hague the Netherlands, The President -International Court of Justice (ICJ), Hague the Netherlands, The Secretary General - SADC, The Lord Chancellor (Minyolui) - Royal Barotseland, The Administrator General - Royal Barotseland and and all foreign missions and embassies accredited to Zambia in Lusaka, the Barotseland National Youth League (BNYL) have demanded that president Sata removes his administration from Barotseland immediately.

"we are only giving your government twenty one (21) days ultimatum, failure to which we shall petition the International Community (United Nations) to sanction your country and Government for the violation of United Nations Security Council resolution 276 (1970), 284 (1970), 2145(XXI), United Nations General Assembly 1966, resolution 264 (1969) security council resolution 1514 (XV) of 1960 and Security Council Resolution 283 (1970)"read the letter in part.

The letter dated 7th September 2012, has also since been sent to major media outlets within and outside of Zambia.

Here below is the letter reproduced in its entirety or you can read the signed copy here:

7th September, 2012

HIS EXCELLENCY MR. MICHAEL CHILUFYA SATA,
President of the Republic of Zambia

REF: ILLEGAL OCCUPATION OF BAROTSELAND BY ZAMBIA CONTRARY TO THE UNITED NATIONS SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION NUMBER 276 (1970)

Reference is made to the above subject matter.

It is well known fact that Zambia's successive administrations including the current P.F government have been occupying Barotseland illegally contrary to the United nations Security Council resolution number 276 (1970) of which Zambia was also a state party .

Due to the foregoing, we the youths of Barotseland are aware of the precedents which are before us such as the case of South Africa Vs. Namibia (South West Africa) when South Africa was sternly warned by United Nations Security Council about the consequence for states of the continued presence of South Africa in Namibia (South West Africa) not withstanding United Nations Security Council resolution number 276 (1970)

Since South Africa's Pretoria administration occupied Namibia illegally, the following were the legal consequences for states of the continued presence of South Africa in Namibia (South West Africa) Notwithstanding, Security Council resolution number 276 (1970)

1. That the continued presence of South Africa in Namibia (South West Africa) being illegal, South Africa was under obligation to withdraw its administration from Namibia (South West Africa) immediately and thus put an end to its occupation of the territory;

2. That state members of the United Nations are under obligation to recognize the illegality of South Africa's presence in Namibia (South West Africa) and the invalidity of its acts on behalf of or concerning Namibia refrain from any acts and in particular any dealings with the Government of South Africa implying the recognition of the legality of, or lending or assistance to, such presence and administration.

3. Since Zambia has been and is still occupying Barotseland illegally, thereby contravening the United nations Security Council resolution number 276 (1970), Your Excellency, you have to bear in mind that your country and Government shall bear the legal consequences as stipulated in the United nations Security Council resolution number 276 (1970) as stated above.

Another precedent is that of ETHIOPIA vs ERITREA of which the INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE (ICJ) ruled in favor of Eritrea citing the same UNITED NATIONS SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION 276 (1970) the ICJ stated that Ethiopia was occupying Eritrea illegally contrary to the United Nations Security Council Resolution 276 (1970). Mr. President we remind you that a binding determination made by a competent organ of the United Nations to the effect that a situation is illegal and cannot remain without consequences.

Zambia being responsible for having created and maintained that situation has an obligation to put an end to it and withdraw its administration from Barotseland. By occupying Barotseland without title, Zambia incurs international responsibility arising from the continuing violation of the International obligations. It also remains accountable for any violations of the rights of the people of Barotseland, or of its obligations under international law towards other states in respect of the exercise of its powers in relation to the territory of Barotseland.

This matter is very clear and there is no dispute over it, as it can be noted from the following: -

a) The Zambian Government is aware that the territory (Barotseland) signed an Agreement with Northern Rhodesia (Zambia) in 1964.

b) The Zambian Government knows very well that what gave them the authority over Barotseland was the Barotseland Agreement of 1964.

c) The Zambian Government knows too well that the agreement was nullified.

d) The Zambian Government knows that the Barotzis wanted the Barotseland Agreement to be honored, respected, implemented and enter into force, but all the successive Zambian governments have been giving many excuses and citing legislative Acts as a basis for refusing to honor the Agreement. Which simply means the Agreement was entered into in bad faith.

e) There was a Barotse Congress held between 26th of March - 27th of March 2012, where it was announced and declared publicly that Barotse People had nothing to do with the Agreement as well; this was in conformity with the principal of law which states "Nobody could be bound by an agreement that is not in force."

The Barotzis have accepted the nullification of the Agreement; and by principal of law "a thing is made and destroyed by one and the same means"so if Zambia was made by the agreement, then it is destroyed by the same Agreement that is nullified.

Therefore, we as BAROTSELAND NATIONAL YOUTH LEAGUE demand that you remove your administration from Barotseland immediately and we are only giving your government twenty one (21) days ultimatum, failure to which we shall petition the International Community (United Nations) to sanction your country and Government for the violation of United Nations Security Council resolution 276 (1970), 284 (1970), 2145(ICJ), United Nations General Assembly 1966, resolution 264 (1969) security council resolutions 1514 (X of 1960 and Security Council resolution 283 (1970).

Yours Signed,

Barotseland Youths

  1. Likando Likando
  2. Sikwibele Wasilota
  3. Boris Muziba Muziba
  4. Masiyaleti Masiyaleti
  5. Luyanga Nawa
  6. Mwenda Nayoto
  7. Itwi Derrick
  8. Etambuyu Nyambe


Cc: The Secretary-General, United Nations

Cc: The Country Representative, UNDP, Zambia

Cc: The President - European Union

Cc: The Secretary-General, Commonwealth

Cc: The Secretary-General, African Union

Cc: The Secretary-General, Amnesty International, UK

Cc: The President - International Criminal Court (ICC), Hague the Netherlands

Cc: The President -International Court of Justice (ICJ), Hague the Netherlands

Cc: The Secretary-General, SADC Cc: The Lord Chancellor (Minyolui) Royal Barotseland

Cc: The Administrator-General, Royal Barotseland

Cc: Embassies, Lusaka

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-2 #1 muyunda 2012-09-13 23:27
Let justice prevail,and those who are wrong brought to book!
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-3 #2 joe 2012-09-14 08:19
is this a joke or what,if the lozis want to secede,do they know the impact this will bring to barotse?firstly ,most lozis have invested there wealth and bought land in other parts of zambia,may remind my dear brothers and sisters that lozis are everywhere inn zambia,do they mean if the other parts of the country decides to chase lozis are they going to be given the investments?don 't venge your anger and cause civil striffs,i love lozis and i can support them if what they do is good,but this barotse agreement is a non starter
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-1 #3 solomon 2012-09-14 15:07
non stater? nice dream. you will soon wake up.
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-1 #4 Induna 2012-09-15 12:14
Lozis are very dificult pipo. I can't understand them
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-4 #5 booty 2012-09-15 13:56
crazy asssed chaps. Keep on dreaming you loosers
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+8 #6 Maurice Pelekelo 2012-09-16 06:20
Mr. Joe and your league, if you really don’t understand what is at stake here, you had better withhold your comments as opposed to yapping – really you lose nothing by not posting anything. Do you honestly reckon that the Barotse people could have made such gallantry sacrifices and self-denial over the years for a joke? Certainly not! We are not jokers. Our youths who have shown such immeasurable amounts of patriotism and heroism are not jokers. Our liberation movements, who have chosen to leave the comfort of their homes for Michael Sata’s deplorable, pathetic prison cells, are not jokers. Our Ngocana; the Minyolui, the entire Mulonga and their people who have shown great resoluteness, are not jokers. Even the Barotse Post that have provided such great a platform for us are not comic creators. We are a serious people with a determined and undeterred vision – we know what we want. To us, our freedom, our independence, our land and our heritage, is more important than the mansions or hectares of land that we own in Zambia.
I wonder the kind of shallow thinking of people who are asking about what will happen to the investments of many Barotzish in Zambia. If this was the type of thinking many freedom fighters had in mind while fighting for their freedom, they wouldn’t have been where they are today; certain regions wouldn’t have been what they are today. Who said when a nation attains independence then all its citizens must be chased out of whichever country they are residing at that particular time? Zambia is not the only place where Barotse citizens are residing. Are we going to be chased out from UK, USA, Canada, South Africa, etc just because we have got our independence? What about Zambians, are they all currently in Zambia? Why are Zambians still in UK even when UK was Zambia’s colonial master? This is why I hold that such reasoning is shallow.
It’s better to look where we are coming from. Those who lack understanding of where Barotseland is coming from have the liberty to swim in their dungeon of ignorance. We entered into that BA64 with northern Rhodesia as a nation until Kenneth Kaunda out of selfishness renamed our country as western province, just to suit his ill-motives. That agreement failed, which simply means that each party reverts to its original status. This is simple logic but I’m failing to understand why these misguided and misinformed Zambian dunderheads have problems in comprehending and accepting straightforward realities.
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+4 #7 Kauke 2012-09-16 17:17
Ku bonahala kuli lika ze a lisa kuta mwa mulaho ze. Kauke ki nako.
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-3 #8 Mutale 2012-09-18 22:40
This people are dreamers really. They missed the train of evolution and remained in the stone age. [censored] [censored]s.
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+2 #9 Barotse in Exile 2012-09-19 19:56
I would like to commend all the Barotse people, standing together inthis fight for our and our future generations' freedom. It shocks me to the rhetoric coming from the Bemba corner. These are not people, sorry, i meant [censored] we want to beassociated with. Kinako. It is indeed our time. There is no turning back as itis very clear to all us that the superficial relationship that we had with Zambia/Northern Rhodesia is totally broken. As a Lozi i do not expect the simple minded Zambian citizens to understand, and that is fine, in fact they may think and say what they like, but the bottom line is this; No Lozi feels welcome in their country. I remember the hatred i was subjected to from an early in primary school to my college, all for being Lozi. I left the country and now live a productive life in another country with skills that my people should be benefiting from. This is a great awakening, many us living outside Zambia are ready to return straight to Barotseland. We know our region is the among the poorest in Zambia, but we will build shelters if we have to, while put our hard earned skills and money to work to develop Barotseland, Never have i seen a people so focussed and committed to a cause. Nothing can stop us. Let us soldier on. My humble request is that we set up a trust fund to support the cause. Kozo bahaesu.
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-2 #10 jack munalula 2012-09-20 06:33
the lozi [censored]ness my brothers u are all [censored] u are still thinking u can just wake up and start ranting like rabid [censored] that u give the Zambia to move out of sand area as if u are the country..[censo red]s u shall die from hunger mother [censored]s just [censored]g send yo kids to schookl [censored]..
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+6 #11 WeZulu 2012-10-12 14:06
I don't get the comments on this site, is it me or most of the guys reading this are thick? The article specifies the importance of self-independen ce and how that was robbed from the Lozi, if you guys want to argue with these herotic youths then debate that point.

Don't come here with half baked comments trying to pull them down.

From across the boarder I say free Barosteland and long live the Lozi, don't let nobody especially those who can reason with you tell you other wise. Bayethe weNdlovu!
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+4 #12 bWIX 2012-10-19 11:37
Kauke ki nako
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+1 #13 Bana Ba Poho Yensu 2012-11-05 15:06
We are moving and very fast. Baroseland is our country. We are tired of being ruled by mad people, we are tired of being called names, we are tired of undevelopment when our land is rich, we are tired of tribalism in your Zambia. We MUST go ahead. It is LAW we are using NOT WAR. Check the pace.....VIVA.. LITUNGA..VIVA BAROTSELAND
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+2 #14 Bana Ba Poho Yensu 2012-11-05 15:11
SELF DETERMINATION IS THE ANSWER TO OUR PROBLEMS...FREE BAROTSELAND. I FAIL TO UNDERSTAND WHY THE ZAMBIAN GOVERNMENT WANTS TO HOLD ON TO BAROSELAND...WH Y? LET US GO...WE DONOT NEED YOU..YOU DONOT NEED US. THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE ALWAYS INSULTED US, INSULTED THE KING....INSULTE D ALL LOZIS. WE ARE TIRED OF YOUR [censored] TRICKS. LAW AND NOT WAR..ONE ZAMBIA ONE RUBISH....I AM ACTUALLY ANGRY
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+1 #15 Bana Ba Poho Yensu 2012-11-05 15:17
Please, donot refer to Zambia any more because Zambia is history. I donot know how they will call it with that poor shape their country will have. They have to get used to it. No turning back. Ours is Barotseland, theirs is Northern Rhodesia. Iam sure Northwesterners will join us and the Southerners. These too have been called names by Sata as people of the "toilets", Southerners too have been insulted before by this tribal government.
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+1 #16 Bana Ba Poho Yensu 2012-11-05 15:26
Quoting Barotse in Exile:
I would like to commend all the Barotse people, standing together inthis fight for our and our future generations' freedom. It shocks me to the rhetoric coming from the Bemba corner. These are not people, sorry, i meant [censored] we want to beassociated with. Kinako. It is indeed our time. There is no turning back as itis very clear to all us that the superficial relationship that we had with Zambia/Northern Rhodesia is totally broken. As a Lozi i do not expect the simple minded Zambian citizens to understand, and that is fine, in fact they may think and say what they like, but the bottom line is this; No Lozi feels welcome in their country. I remember the hatred i was subjected to from an early in primary school to my college, all for being Lozi. I left the country and now live a productive life in another country with skills that my people should be benefiting from. This is a great awakening, many us living outside Zambia are ready to return straight to Barotseland. We know our region is the among the poorest in Zambia, but we will build shelters if we have to, while put our hard earned skills and money to work to develop Barotseland, Never have i seen a people so focussed and committed to a cause. Nothing can stop us. Let us soldier on. My humble request is that we set up a trust fund to support the cause. Kozo bahaesu.

Yes, I totally agree..we are ready to live in make shift shelters as we come back home to develop Bulozi. We have the knowledge and skills. Which of these Kolwestans can beat us in real Education...NOT doctored at Matero University?
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0 #17 Bana Ba Poho Yensu 2012-11-05 15:30
Quoting Kauke:
Ku bonahala kuli lika ze a lisa kuta mwa mulaho ze. Kauke ki nako.


Gentlemen..Liko mu lisilile. Yema uzamaye....we are on the move. Those in the diaspora, start preparing to come back home. By flight used Livingstone, it is a sister/brotherl y territory.
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-1 #18 BULOZI 2012-11-05 15:32
SATA KISIKUBA, [censored]....A fter promising our people the restoration of BA 64 unga muhata ubeya mwamahutu. What a thief for a president.Old foooolish fellow.
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0 #19 BULOZI 2012-11-05 15:40
Quoting Maurice Pelekelo:
Mr. Joe and your league, if you really don’t understand what is at stake here, you had better withhold your comments as opposed to yapping – really you lose nothing by not posting anything. Do you honestly reckon that the Barotse people could have made such gallantry sacrifices and self-denial over the years for a joke? Certainly not! We are not jokers. Our youths who have shown such immeasurable amounts of patriotism and heroism are not jokers. Our liberation movements, who have chosen to leave the comfort of their homes for Michael Sata’s deplorable, pathetic prison cells, are not jokers. Our Ngocana; the Minyolui, the entire Mulonga and their people who have shown great resoluteness, are not jokers. Even the Barotse Post that have provided such great a platform for us are not comic creators. We are a serious people with a determined and undeterred vision – we know what we want. To us, our freedom, our independence, our land and our heritage, is more important than the mansions or hectares of land that we own in Zambia.
I wonder the kind of shallow thinking of people who are asking about what will happen to the investments of many Barotzish in Zambia. If this was the type of thinking many freedom fighters had in mind while fighting for their freedom, they wouldn’t have been where they are today; certain regions wouldn’t have been what they are today. Who said when a nation attains independence then all its citizens must be chased out of whichever country they are residing at that particular time? Zambia is not the only place where Barotse citizens are residing. Are we going to be chased out from UK, USA, Canada, South Africa, etc just because we have got our independence? What about Zambians, are they all currently in Zambia? Why are Zambians still in UK even when UK was Zambia’s colonial master? This is why I hold that such reasoning is shallow.
It’s better to look where we are coming from. Those who lack understanding of where Barotseland is coming from have the liberty to swim in their dungeon of ignorance. We entered into that BA64 with northern Rhodesia as a nation until Kenneth Kaunda out of selfishness renamed our country as western province, just to suit his ill-motives. That agreement failed, which simply means that each party reverts to its original status. This is simple logic but I’m failing to understand why these misguided and misinformed Zambian dunderheads have problems in comprehending and accepting straightforward realities.

It is for this reason that, Kaunda Kenneth whatever you call the i.diot has NEVER inspired me in my life. I am very young and determined. Kaunda killed our people who knew the history and he thought he had finished his business with Barotseland. God is GREAT because His time is a GREAT EQUALIZER. Kaunda will see Barotseland' Freedom, this is why God still keeps him. Anyone who raised the BA64 issue during Kaunda is dead. Ala [censored] tuwe
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0 #20 BLACK BULL 2012-11-05 15:47
KAUNDA WILL LEAVE TO SEE THE FREEDOM OF BAROTSELAND AND WILL DEAD A VERY FRUSTRATED MAN. HE KILLED OUR FORE FATHERS WHO HAD THIS DREAM. BUT, ALAS, NO ONE CAN KILL THE DREAM WHOS HOUR HAS COME. OUR FATHERS KEPT THE DOCUMENTS And NOW WE KNOW THE HISTORY AND WE ARE BACK ON TRACK. SOON WE SHALL BE THERE...FREEDOM IS COMING TOMORROW....LIB ERATE BAROTSELAND
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0 #21 BLACK BULL 2012-11-05 15:48
ZAMBIA WITHOUT BAROTSELAND IS LIKE A BABY WITH BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND BIRTH PLACE
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+1 #22 BLACK BULL 2012-11-05 15:50
Quoting BLACK BULL:
ZAMBIA WITHOUT BAROTSELAND IS LIKE A BABY WITH BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND BIRTH PLACE

SORRY I MEANT ZAMBIA WITHOUT BAROTSELAND IS LIKE A BABY WITHOUT A BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND BIRTH PLACE
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0 #23 Kalaluka Mwiya Jr 2012-11-06 14:13
Children of Barotseland,
Don't be bothered with these Bembas/kolwesta ns, they are just idolent criminals without brains.
Kolwestans, do not bring your dullness to this blog, go to your Tumfweko, Post, Daily as well as Times as PF vuvuselas.
Whether you like it or not, Barotseland is free, free to determine its own destiny. No amount of intimidation will slow this cause, but makes us strong to even move farther.
Barotseland shall use brains, not the Northern @rhodesian law of the jungle.
The historical perspective and teritorial intergrity of Barotseland compared to the lost failed state "Zambia".
West side East side
Barotseland.....1530............?
Barotseland.....1890............West Nyasa.
Barotseland.....1892............West Luangwa.
Barotseland.....1895............North Eastern Rhodesia.
Barotseland.....1924............Northern Rhodesia.
Barotseland.....BA.1964.......Zambia.
Barotseland.....2012 til forever.....?
The integrity and consistence of Barotseland is clearly seen through time, and it shall remain so until the end of time.
Yes its true, you can take a Lozi away from Barotseland but you CANNOT take Barotseland away from a Lozi.
Only truth shall set all human free.
Tugongote Litunga Ni Lyetu.
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-2 #24 Its over 2013-02-06 10:53
Quoting Barotse in Exile:
I would like to commend all the Barotse people, standing together inthis fight for our and our future generations' freedom. It shocks me to the rhetoric coming from the Bemba corner. These are not people, sorry, i meant [censored] we want to beassociated with. Kinako. It is indeed our time. There is no turning back as itis very clear to all us that the superficial relationship that we had with Zambia/Northern Rhodesia is totally broken. As a Lozi i do not expect the simple minded Zambian citizens to understand, and that is fine, in fact they may think and say what they like, but the bottom line is this; No Lozi feels welcome in their country. I remember the hatred i was subjected to from an early in primary school to my college, all for being Lozi. I left the country and now live a productive life in another country with skills that my people should be benefiting from. This is a great awakening, many us living outside Zambia are ready to return straight to Barotseland. We know our region is the among the poorest in Zambia, but we will build shelters if we have to, while put our hard earned skills and money to work to develop Barotseland, Never have i seen a people so focussed and committed to a cause. Nothing can stop us. Let us soldier on. My humble request is that we set up a trust fund to support the cause. Kozo bahaesu.

A cause found on tribe will never succeed. Its clear some Lozis have serious hate for Bembas, whatever the reason. If today Hakainde Hichilema or Charles Milupi were to become president of Zambia, all this fake whining would cease.
Barotseland has never been occupied by anyone; no one sane would believe such. Lozis have willfully participated in everything Zambian and never coerced by anyone to be Zambian. in 1963 Lozis in WP overwhelmingly voted for independence and a new nation called Zambia in a plebiscite held in that region. Aurthur Wina the son of a ngambela was heavily involved in the independence drive. In short Lozis like other tribes actively desired and brought about what is today Zambia. Hence to start going on about being occupied and all that is farcical. It's such ridicule thats making the international community disintrested in the whole thing.
Lozis should start dealing with their dislike for Bembas and not resolve less than genuine causes when a Bemba takes to power. The international community have seen how fake this barotse thing is and their silence is an indicator that they have rubbished it. Its good that wise people like the BRE are tactfully distancing themselves from it, its a non-starter.
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-2 #25 Its over 2013-02-06 11:02
Quoting Bana Ba Poho Yensu:
Please, donot refer to Zambia any more because Zambia is history. I donot know how they will call it with that poor shape their country will have. They have to get used to it. No turning back. Ours is Barotseland, theirs is Northern Rhodesia. Iam sure Northwesterners will join us and the Southerners. These too have been called names by Sata as people of the "toilets", Southerners too have been insulted before by this tribal government.

Now you want to illegally get southern province and northwestern also, yet you came up with an agreement on which they were never consulted. Besides the map of barotseland excludes these provinces so on what basis are you going to `get' this provinces. Let me answer that for you, on the basis that these regions are not bemba or belonging to Bembas cousins the easterners. In short they do not belong to the `wrong' tribe. The `wrong tribe being Bemba. Tribe is the fuel that drives this Barotse machine.
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-1 #26 Its over 2013-02-06 11:16
Quoting Bana Ba Poho Yensu:
Quoting Kauke:
Ku bonahala kuli lika ze a lisa kuta mwa mulaho ze. Kauke ki nako.


Gentlemen..Likomu lisilile. Yema uzamaye....we are on the move. Those in the diaspora, start preparing to come back home. By flight used Livingstone, it is a sister/brotherly territory.

Yet in your wallet there is a green Zanbian NRC and in yuor pocket a Zambian Passport. Why is Livingstone considered freindly? Is it becuase they are few Bembas there.
Tribe tribe tribe, Africas greatest bane. It's been responsible for over a dozen conflicts and has killed million in decades gone by. Hence having strong tribal affinity can lead to disaster.
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-3 #27 Its over 2013-02-06 11:26
I would like the International community that are being beseeched here, to ask this same league how far they have gone in asking for portions of Barotseland that are in Namibia, Zimbabwe, Botswana, Angola and DRC. According to the map of Barotseland, it strecthes to all these countries. If this league were genuine would they not be fighting to get all their land back, without ceeding anything.
They cant even dare to approach the other countries because they know their nonesense will not be tolerated. They only making noise in Zambia.
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+4 #28 Kana 2013-02-07 08:56
Its over - kin'i a u sa ikeli munna. A li ku a mi ze.
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-1 #29 it is over 2013-02-07 23:02
IT IS OVER KISILONYANA KINITI A LIKU A MI
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+1 #30 Manechocho 2013-07-06 19:58
Ma borders a naha ya Barotseland kea fe? Is Victora Falls, Caprivi Strip ni Chobe part of it?
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+3 #31 Smith 2013-09-12 17:34
I have no doubt whatsoever that the people of Barosteland have an understandable cry, but my only worry is the original Barosteland streaches far beyond the Zambian boarders. It is therefore imperative that discussions should be on the ground in those countries where the original Barosteland streched into if they are to have a meaningful case both at national and international levels. I for one I am Ila and I would'nt mind belonging to either Barosteland or Northern Rhodesia so to speak, however caution need to be taken.
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0 #32 Smith 2013-09-12 17:48
While I would not like to sound tribalistic, it is true that the Lozi people of the present day Zambia have been alienated and marginalised in many respects. A sane Politician should want to find out what has happened all over a sudden for a certain ethenic group to want to declare independence. History will always bring us to terms with reality as to what happened in other parts of the world, Ethopia, Sudan etc, it will be therefore prudent for the Zambian leadership to sit down and look at the situation critically. But with crop of the current leaders in Zambia this is just an imagination.
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+1 #33 stupid Lozi 2013-09-15 19:43
UN has important issues to deal with. Do not spam them with irrelevant, minor issues from your active minds. What are you going to after 21 days?
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-2 #34 BRIAN 2014-01-17 18:51
When is the 21 days expiring you dreamers? I think it already has and nothing has happened. are not just making [censored]s of yourselves? anyway.....drea m on............. ..........
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0 #35 Harmony 2014-03-02 05:20
If United states can do it why not Zambia?.....God created us in his own image.....Pleas e people of other parts of Zambia and Barotse land (western province) we can live in harmony forever- I know a lot of intermarried people from different regions-God bless Zambia and Long live Western province
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0 #36 Christal 2014-03-25 16:16
Help support our cause. Our own pal was just identified as having this.
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