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  • Kalaluka Mwiya Jr 18.05.2013 15:12
    Zambia is fighting a losing battle against Barotseland. To legitimise our claim, we have presented to the world our long awaited ...

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  • Its over 18.05.2013 14:09
    Another wheel comes off the nationhood bandwagon, rendering it undrivable and headed for a thumping crash.

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  • Maurice Pelekelo 17.05.2013 22:39
    Those 20 useless deputy ministers are just wasting their time. I would kindly advise them to pay attention to the numerous problems ...

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  • Ndanda Siinji 17.05.2013 16:25
    1. The United Nations has given the Zambian Government two warnings to leave the independent Barotseland with another warning giving ...

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  • Munkaile Masule 17.05.2013 11:12
    It is shame to hear such an evil plan by Zambia, and i think its time up that cripple this diabolic nation to its knees. Malozi let ...

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  • lubasi 16.05.2013 07:41
    nkoyas have nothing to offer except infighting the superior adminstrators,w e want all tribes in Barotseland to unity for total ...

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  • Maurice Pelekelo 15.05.2013 22:35
    Hakuna niti ye kile yabateni, yeliteni kapa mane yeka bateni, kufita ye hatisizwe fa! Bulozi is ours, and our birthright. This must ...

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  • Tumelo 15.05.2013 07:36
    Very well summarized. I can't wait for that day when we shall fly this beautiful flag high into the blue barotse sky! Viva Barotseland!

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  • Joseph 15.05.2013 04:34
    We need to start calling our river by its rightful name. Zambezi is a name from Mozambique. We are not from Mozambique.In Barotseland ...

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  • mubita waluka 14.05.2013 16:36
    Mwaliteta should not [censored] himself that he can bring development to Barotseland with consultation from kk. If he has consulted ...

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  • lubasi 14.05.2013 15:05
    Don't cheat LOZIS YOU CANT DEVELOP HYDRO POWE R AT SIOMA,DOING SO WILL SUBMERGE ALL THE VILLAGES IN THE BAROTSEFLOOD PLAIN AND THERE ...

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  • Malumo Muhali 14.05.2013 13:06
    You too mother [censored] swine we bolo kapuli we be chinyo! Nalishiba kulanda ichibemba we tole! mbuli sana. Borotseland te ya ba ...

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Does the Matter of Barotseland's Statehood Need to be Taken to the International Court of Justice (ICJ)after the Declaration of the March 27th 2012 that Barotseland has Reverted to her Earlier Status that Obtained before 1964?

Mwenda NayotoIt is interesting to note that some sections of Barotseland want the matter of Barotseland’s statehood to be taken to the international court of justice (ICJ) while others oppose the idea. The simple questions that  may be asked are what does declaration mean by international law? And what should be done after declaration has been made?

As per United Nations resolution number 1244 it describes declaration as IRREVERSIBLE and IRRESISTIBLE meaning when you have declared something you can never swallow your words for instance a dying declaration of a person and many other declarations. Another example is when the late second Republican President of Zambia declared that Zambia is a Christian Nation. To-date it is still called a Christian Nation. From here we see the consequences of declaration.

Likewise the Barotzish must know that their declaration to revert Barotseland to her earlier position by  international law is IRREVERSIBLE and IRRESISTIBLE.

For any state to be recognized there are certain statehood conditions that are recognized worldwide and these must be met, failure to which that state can never be granted recognition.

WHAT IS RECOGNITION? 

Recognition (in International law)

1.  The process by which one state declares that another political entity fulfills the conditions of statehood and that it is willing to deal with as a member of the international community. Recognition usually takes place when a new state comes into being. Some authorities believe that recognition is constitute, i.e. it is one of the conditions that create a state in international law.

Mostly, however, regard it as being merely declaratory, i.e. an acceptance of a fact that already exists.

WHAT  ARE THESE CONDITIONS  OF STATEHOOD THAT MUST BE FULFILLED IN ORDER FOR A STATE TO BE RECOGNIZED?

These are : (a) The coat of arms, (b) The National flag, (c) The National seal, (d) The constitution, (e) The National Anthem, (f)The Name of the country and (g) the National Language.

The question is; has Barotseland fulfilled the above statehood conditions?

Barotseland actually has fulfilled the statehood conditions as required by the international law, for the information of those who did not know, we have all the above mentioned requirements which make up a state.

Another question Is, if these requirements have been met by the Barotzish, what should be the next step?

The next step is to put up the Royal Barotseland interim government period!!

People should appreciate what LINYUNGANDAMBO has done other than hating and mudslinging them. To me it shows that such people are not in the struggle. The genuine people in the struggle appreciate one another. 

LINYUNGANDAMBO has finished everything. The question is where were those fellows who are claiming that they are in the struggle? What the LINYUNGANDAMBO have done has been accepted by the international community, and they even wonder what us Barotzish know. What are we doing after declaring and fulfilling the requirements needed in order  for a new state to be recognized?

It must be noted that the are above mentioned statehood requirements have indeed be FULFILLED!

THE BACK GROUND ON HOW THESE CONDITIONS FOR STATE HOOD RECOGNITION CAME ABOUT?

With the collapse of the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia in the 1990s it became imperative for states of the European Union to adopt a common policy with regard to recognition of the new emerging sovereign states of Eastern  and south-Eastern Europe. Consequently, in December 1991, the European Commission published its Guidelines on the recognition of new states.

This made it a precondition of recognition that the new states should respect human rights and oppose the proliferation of nuclear weapons.

2. Acceptance of a government  as the legal representative of the state. This may be de facto or de jure.  The distinction is a fluid one, often involving a political element, since international law allows state discretion as to whether or not to accord recognition and of which kind. The according of recognition of either kind is usually an acknowledgment that the government recognized has effect control, but the decision to give merely  de facto recognition.

The significance of the distinction ( which is of little legal consequence) therefore, depends on the intention of the recognizing government. Recognition may be express or implied ( for example, by entering into diplomatic relations with a new government) (ESTRADA DOCTORINE)

As we conclude let us look at the case of KOSOVO and see if we as Barotzish need to take the matter to the International Court of Justice (ICJ), there are other precedents such as ERITREA and GRAND COMOROS which are similar cases to that of Barotseland.

Due to time I have decided to pick on the KOSOVO scenario and especially take interest the words spoken by Daniel Bethlehem the legal advisor to the Queen’s Bench,

THE CASE OF KOSOVO

It must be noted that Kosovo did not take the matter to the International Court of Justice (ICJ) after declaring that they were no longer part of Yugoslavia.

Instead it was the Serbians that took Kosovo to the ICJ, as it is further stated in the statement in the judgment of the case of Serbia Vs Kosovo on the 10th day of December 2009 by the United Kingdom. Queen's Bench (QB),  legal adviser to the foreign and common wealth office Daniel Bethlehem made the following remarks:

Serbia by initiating the proceedings by the ICJ wants to set back the clock, and seeks an advisory option that would compel Kosovo to re-engage with Serbia over status. There is, however, no reason whatever to believe that an agreed outcome would be any more achievable now than it was in the past. The United Kingdom warns about the misleading approach of Serbia which would like the court assess the legality of the declaration ignoring the events that led to it. Serbia has made it clear that it will never accept an independent Kosovo, for its part has made it quite clear, that, given the legality of abuse, it cannot again become part of Serbia. Courts do not continue to order estranged spouses to continue in broken marriage. Although the resolution 1244 referred to the territorial integrity of Yugoslavia, this principle was not the cornerstone for political situation to Kosovo's status. The United Kingdom did not come to support independence for Kosovo quickly or easily and does not see these proceedings are adversarial to Serbia. Serbia's democracy is not much older than Kosovo's. Independence of Kosovo brought stability to the region after a traumatic decade. The common future for both states in European Union and the United Kingdom will continue to work towards the realization of that vision”

Note

I want to challenge anyone who can say there is at least one country that got its independence in the ICJ then let them give us the name of that country. We will be very grateful as Barotseland National Youth League (BNYL) and personally as an individual.

But I can assure that person that there is no country that got its independence in  International Court of Justice (ICJ). Therefore, we the youth of Barotseland reject the notion or idea that we should take the issue of Barotseland's independence to the ICJ because in the first place there is no such precedent and secondly, by international law, when you declare the next step is to be recognized so long you have fulfilled the statehood conditions.

Even in the case of SERBIA Vs. KOSOVO, it was not KOSOVO that took SERBIA to ICJ, instead it was SERBIA which took  KOSOVO to court.

The matter of going to the international Court of Justice(ICJ)  will or may only arise on boundaries / borders, in an event that a dispute arise over boundaries / borders and not now because there, is no dispute.

If I may ask what dispute is there between Barotseland and Zambia as at now? Because up to now Zambia has never rebutted our declaration, and by law silence means acceptance, because, the Zambian government was supposed to rebut that declaration within 48 hours from the time the declaration was made as stipulated by international law.

But they failed to do so, meaning they have consented to declaration.

MALOZI AMUTONE KI YONA NITI YA LUKULULA ONA YE!!!

AKUNA NAHA YE KILE YALUKULUHELA MWA KUTA YA LIFASI!!

MUSIKE MWA PUMIHA KI MAHATA BABA SA ZIBIBI MILAO YA LIFASI!!

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0 #1 Maurice 2012-08-01 08:02
Editor,
I read Mwenda Nayoto, the Secretary General of the Barotseland National Youth League (BNYL)
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0 #2 Munduluyi 2012-08-01 12:42
Mwenda
Well spoken. There is a lot of truth in most of the issues you have raised. I also agree with Pelekelo on the unity of purpose.
What should be understood however, is that Barotseland desires freedom without bloodshed. Most if not all the nations you have named here, including Kosovo got their independence after bloodshed. Barotseland has recorded population of about 900 000. We don't want to lose another soul.
The sillence of the Zambian government is a recipe for civil war. Unless we outsmart Zambia that war is likely to occur.
Even though there is no nation that got independence through ICJ, the only way Barotseland can get indepence without war is through the endorsement of the ICJ. It is not just being free by any means possible, rather by means less violent possible to save lives.
Groups that just break from mother nations dont need courts like ICJ because they are outlawed already. But Barotseland is within the relm of law. Therefore ICJ involvement may be to the advantage of Barotseland, especially that Zambia is not letting go without a fight. Through ICJ thr international community will support Barotseland.
Ki naako! Tu koongote
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0 #3 Joseph 2012-08-04 18:44
@Munduluyi. But Zambia has not rebutted the declaration of independence by Barotseland as the author has rightly pointed so what will be the basis for taking the matter to the ICJ? If Zambia attacks us it will be as one country attacking another and we will have every right to defend ourselves.
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0 #4 Seba Yeta 2012-08-04 18:52
Quoting Munduluyi:
Mwenda
Well spoken. There is a lot of truth in most of the issues you have raised. I also agree with Pelekelo on the unity of purpose.
What should be understood however, is that Barotseland desires freedom without bloodshed. Most if not all the nations you have named here, including Kosovo got their independence after bloodshed. Barotseland has recorded population of about 900 000. We don't want to lose another soul.
The sillence of the Zambian government is a recipe for civil war. Unless we outsmart Zambia that war is likely to occur.
Even though there is no nation that got independence through ICJ, the only way Barotseland can get indepence without war is through the endorsement of the ICJ. It is not just being free by any means possible, rather by means less violent possible to save lives.
Groups that just break from mother nations dont need courts like ICJ because they are outlawed already. But Barotseland is within the relm of law. Therefore ICJ involvement may be to the advantage of Barotseland, especially that Zambia is not letting go without a fight. Through ICJ thr international community will support Barotseland.
Ki naako! Tu koongote

But what i dont understand is that we expect Zambia to "willing" hand you over our state? We have taken our state and the international community is watching and they know our claim is legitimate. so what is there to fear??
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